3 step process for getting a knowledge panel for a podcast.
The Kalicube Process for Getting and Managing a Google Knowledge Panel for a Podcast

Getting a Knowledge Panel on Google is not limited to famous podcasts that get thousands of downloads a week. In fact, since October 2021 most podcasts that are listed in Google Podcasts automatically have a Knowledge Panel. Here’s my Podcast Knowledge Panel Update article from October 2021. Importantly, the Knowledge Panel doesn’t always appear when user’s search the podcast name.

Cases where the Podcast Knowledge Panel will appear
  • Famous podcast
  • Famous host
  • Podcast with an unambiguous name
  • If Google is very confident in the information
All Podcast Hosts and Owners Should Follow this 3 Step Process

Sounds trite, but every podcast owner or host should be following this 3 step process. Why?

  • Build Google’s confidence in the information it has in Google Podcasts
  • Improve stability (ie that the Knowledge Panel shows 100% of the time)
  • Enrich the Knowledge Panel – add additional information (see below)
  • Appear in podcast carousels (see below)
  • Appear in Podcast Boxes on generic searches (see below)
  • Create the Knowledge Panel if Google Podcasts didn’t give you one
Podcast Knowledge Panels Examples
Enriched Podcast Knowledge Panels that include additional information
Podcast Boxes Google SERP
Podcast boxes on a Google SERP (Search Engine Results Pages) for a generic search
Podcast Carousel on Google SERP (Search Engine Results Pages)
Before Starting

Before starting on the 3 step Kalicube Process for a Knowledge Panel for a podcast, it is helpful to understand the problem Google faces and what it is is trying to do. Google is looking at fragmented, often contradictory information that it has collected from around the web. It is trying to piece it together to understand. It is a little like Google is trying to piece together a broken china plate. Google calls this “reconciliation”.

1. Identify the Entity Home for the Podcast

Google is looking for an authoritative source to use as the reference point for the facts about the podcast. We call this the Entity Home.

Generally, Google will choose an Entity Home that contains the best defragmented explanation of the facts about the podcast – the china plate in one single piece in our analogy. Google is looking for a complete version of the facts about the company (china plate in one correctly assembled piece) to which it can compare the facts it has (the china plate it has built from the pieces).

As you can imagine, the best case scenario is that you provide that authoritative reference point and that baseline version of the facts (china plate in one correctly assembled piece).

Step one is therefore to choose an Entity Home and provide a simple, clear statement of the facts about the podcast – the china plate to which Google can compare the information it collects from around the web.

Steps 2 and 3 will both ensure Google accepts your choice and build its confidence in the facts you provided. That confidence in understanding is what gets you the Knowledge Panel.

Here are some examples of possible Entity Homes (from best to worst):
  • The about page or homepage on the official podcast site.
  • An active social profile (Twitter, Instagram and Facebook are good candidates).
  • A podcast site (Podchaser, Apple Podcasts…).

2. Corroborate and Confirm About the Podcast

You need to ensure that relevant, authoritative sources confirm the facts you are providing to Google on your Entity Home. Google thrives on repetition when it comes to Knowledge Panels since repetition builds up confidence.

So you need to go to every profile page and article about the podcast and fact-correct them to ensure the information they contain confirms with the information you provided on the Entity Home.

As a rule of thumb, you need an average of 20 consistent corroborative sources. The exact number depends on the authority of those sources. With a Wikipedia or Wikidata page, you may only need half a dozen (or less). Without either of those, 30 relevant and authoritative sources usually does the trick, even for non-notable podcast.

Examples of authoritative sources for podcast include Apple Podcasts, Podchaser and Soundcloud.

3. Create an Infinite, Self-Confirming Loop for the Podcast

Ideally, every corroborative source you corrected in step 2 should link back to the Entity Home. This ensures Google accepts your decision about which webpage it uses as the authoritative reference for facts about the podcast. It also creates an infinite loop of confirmation that educates Google.

As a human, repetition can get annoying. For a machine trying to understand the world, repetition is the one thing it craves.

If every profile and article about the podcast reiterates some or all of the facts you lay out on the Entity Home, and they all link back to that Entity Home, you will have created the perfect infinite self-confirming loop.

Done well, Google will understand, be confident in that understanding and you will get a Knowledge Panel.

Need Help?

If you need help with this Kalicube Process, we offer a package consultancy + SaaS deal or Kalicube’s Done-for-You services to help you and teach you all the strategies, tips and tricks to perfect your brand message on Google.

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